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The Irony of the All Fools Day Long Lease --- Economic Ownership Sold --- Unexplained Mortgage Attachment --- First lease signed by Mathias Voges --- Minister of Plenipotentiary.

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buncamper14092009Philipsburg:--- Minister of Labour and Health Maria Buncamper Molanus and her husband Claudius Buncamper has a lot of explanations to give to the people of St. Maarten regarding the sale of the economic ownership of the long lease they received on April 1, 2008 "All Fools Day."
Unbelievable, but all this monkey business between the former executive council and the Buncampers was concocted on April 1 2008 "All Fools Day," the irony of all ironies.
The Buncampers received their long lease on April 1 2008 for a property they were subleasing two weeks before they obtained their first one year lease on January 1 2005 to St. Maarten Building Supplies.
Three years later the Buncampers became wiser and decided that they would make sure they get the long lease of the property while there were legal battles ongoing on who should get the long lease.
When the Buncampers obtained the long lease they did not stop there, they decided to
manipulate the legal terms of the lease by selling the economic value of the property for a whopping USD 3. 000, 000, 00 and granting the buyer a mortgage to the value of USD 2.000.000, 00. In reality article (e) of the long lease states that the lessee is not authorized to transfer or sub-lease (sublet) the rights of the long lease. "Economic Ownership is the legal loophole to circumvent this clause because (1) the rights of the long lease were not transferred, (2) they did no sublet or sublease since economic ownership is not a lease, but the end result is the same as an outright sale."
While there is a legal loophole in the long lease contract, it behoves the leader of the Democratic Party now Prime Minister Sarah Wescot Williams to tell the people of St. Maarten how ethical this is and if any other former commissioners had done the same as the Buncampers and how is good governance reflected in these shady transactions. The Prime Minister should also tell the people (voters) of St. Maarten why the Democratic Party government that she led gave the Buncampers the yearly lease and long lease when she knew Elmer Moses Mardenborough had submitted an application for long lease since April 21 1995.

We are forced to be reminded of a statement former Lt. Governor Franklyn Richards made when he said Lt. Governors are like the Sherriff among the cowboys.
According the deed made by notary Francis Edgar Gijbertha, the Buncampers received a down payment of USD 1,631,297.00 from the buyer Theodore Oniel Walters, managing director of ECO GREEN N.V. Walters has committed himself to paying USD 18,750 monthly installments beginning January 2009. The buyer in this case would also have to live with the mistake which has "ninety (73) consecutive monthly installments."
The irony in this "All Fools Day" lease leaves us to question the Buncampers on whether or not they received this sum of money or are they in the business of laundering money if so for whom are they fronting. Should reporters now look for the Buncampers tax declaration to see if they declared the USD 1, 631, 297.00 as income tax or is the Minister willing to make that available to the people of St. Maarten after all good governance is built upon transparency.
We believe Minister Buncamper Molanus should tell us exactly what transpired on All Fools Day 2008 because on Sunday the Minister said "I did not sell any long lease land for any amount of money," she went on to say at no time she used her office to benefit her or her family and certainly not in this case.
The mortgage clause in the deed SMN News obtained seems rather technical, stating that the seller (Buncampers) will grant the buyer (Eco Green) a mortgage on the long lease which the seller still holds in the event the court should condemn the seller to pay the buyer damages because the seller failed to comply with some unspecified conditions, seems more like a catch all clause.

SMN News obtained copies of the contracts at the Kadaster's office which is posted below for your reading pleasure. While there have been numerous articles on the sale of the economic value of the long lease and the denial from Minister Buncamper Molanus we believe our readers have a right to know what is happening in our country, they also need to know who our leaders are and the example they are setting for the youths of St. Maarten. The prosecutor's office said they received some documents but are yet to take a decision on whether or not to investigate. Let us hope with the releasing of these documents the prosecutor's office would by then tell us exactly what they intend to do with the documents they received.

Signature on first lease—

SMN News posted the first lease the Buncampers received from government on Sunday so that our readers could see for themselves that a lease was granted to the former commissioner and her husband Claudius Buncamper who is a senior civil servant. While the document bears the name of the former Lt. Governor of St. Maarten Franklyn Richards we realised that the signature on the document did not match the signature of Franklyn Richards. Our research shows that former Acting Lt. Governor Mathias Voges (current Minister of Plenipotentiary appointed by the Democratic Party) signed that document when Richards was probably off island.

The Deed of Land Transfer from the Buncampers to Eco Green.
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The Kadaster Extract

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The Long Lease the Buncampers obtained on All Fools Day 2008
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Elmer Mardenborough's official request for the Long Lease.

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Last Updated ( Wednesday, 15 December 2010 22:17 )  
Comments (41)
  • alex
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    Maria, Bibi strip you to the ground. Right now you are butt naked.

  • gra**hopper
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    They should strip her from all the bus licenses also, award them the the ppl she is renting them to. Using the power the ppl gave you(actually in her case no really since she didn't get enough votes to hold anything) to enrich yourself, should be punishable with jail time.

  • BlackOne
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    I hope this media don't drom this story in the next week , we need answers bad..............

  • Rent your land
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    Send Mr and Mrs Bunscampie to jail, and stupid Oneil too. Prosecutor do your job the way you where taught and stop these get rich quick politians from corrupting our country. Send out a clear message to the rest who dare to follow in the Buncamper's foot step.

    I will like to take this opportunity to advise the land owners who have their land on lease with some necessary updates. I am talking about the land owners that where tricked by ROB, Public Works and Kadastre after hurricane Luise, to allow people that are leasing land from them (land owners) to build their home with blocks instead of plywood.

    Most of these people that are leasing land has bigger and better homes built than the some of the land owners. So when sh*t starts to hit the fan where will the land owner find money to pay these people out for their homes..... Government knows full well that most of the property on St Maarten is succession land, so why did they come up with that idea. Government also knows that you can not sell succesion land to no one if the other family members do not agree.

    So what i want to tell the land owners who are stuck between a rock and a hard place, to stop leasing your land and start renting the land to these people on your property that has bigger block homes than yours

    If you (land owner) can not pay them out, then you have the rights to your homework and get wise.....The bigger the house more rent they will have to pay.

    Also go and talk to someone at the notary and let them give you some more advise on how to proceed.

    All government want to do is make us poor. beggars and idiots.

    Reminder: Rent your land if you can not pay them out for their big house......Make some money......We can not let government fool us no more.......Wake up people.

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  • LOLOLOL
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    What a thing... This island is so damn corrupt...

    I say lock them all up, Richards, Buncampers, Heyligers, Pelgrims, Voges the entire lot.

    And they have a heart to raise our taxes.

    HOw bout She shells out the Tax for her 3 million dollar sale Pronto.

  • Hpp
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    GO HOME MARIA

  • Redwood
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    If Maria do not spend at least a year in jail, I going to sell drugs to pat my bills and get rich. And I want to see which cop will come to lock me up.

  • Correction to make
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    Dear Bibi,

    I feel some corrections must be made.

    'economical ownership' is not a legal loophole. In this case, it is not just (perhaps) unethical, but downright in conflict with the law.

    Please be accurate with this case, because people might wrongfully think that the parties involved acted in line with the law. I have already heard that some people believe the notary found a legal loophole. I don't think those people are correct.

    One must bear in mind that economical ownership does not exist in the civil code. It is thus a qualification given by a notary to a certain type of contract.

    If you read the deed carefully, this agreement could be qualified as a sublease agreement: Ecogreen subleases the property for a period of 60 years (the term of the real right to long lease) and pays an entrance fee ('sleutelgeld') for this sublease of usd 3 million.

    The original deed however forbids subleasing.

    Further, there is a clear intention by government to control public land and the clear expression that a raise of value of the land may not be cashed by the person having the real right to long lease.

    An example may clarify that there is no legal loophole here. Suppose you rent a house and the lease contract forbids you to sublease it without prior approval of your landlord.

    You nevertheless decide to enter into a profitable sublease agreement, but you call it: "sale and purchase of the economical ownership of a right to rent ahouse". In the contract it is stated that the right to live in the house is sold economically for a purchase price of USD 3000 and the agreement that the purchaser takes over payment of the monthly rent.

    The landlord all over sudden sees another person in the house and wants to vacate you and the sublessee for breach of contract. The landlord considers the presence of another person a forbidden sublease and as a breach of contract and starts court proceedings.

    In court you of course deny any breach and state that you did not sublease. You also state that the lease agreement did not forbid you to sell the right to live in the place to a third party. Any judge will look at what has occurred and not how parties named it and come to the conclusion that you breached the contract.

    So, it does not matter how you name it, the "economical transfer deed" occurs as a forbidden sublease agreement. One may not forget that a legal transfer of the right of long lease always needs the permission of government, in order to keep control over domain lands and to see if the value is not cashed..

    So I think not only the holders to the right of long lease have something to explain, but also the notary - gatekeeper for the proper execution of the law - must explain why he thinks that parties legally could enter into this agreement.

  • right way to go
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    Correction: Bibi did not strip Maria to the ground and put her butt out. She did it to herself. Pride goes before destruction. This is highway greed and disrespect for the needy families in the communities. The have-yous are always scheeming for ways to get more than they already have at any cost, and leave the impression that they are woking for the small man. Instead they are scheeming for ways to use their power to enrich themselves.
    i am anxiously waiting to her her next excuse. What a ting.

  • cosa nostra
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    Look who's name also on the document,Marlieke van zadelhof,that dutch woman that came in couple of years ago and put some land on her name while i'm register for more than 15 years and CAN NOT get government land.
    There is no one on SXM to stop all of this to happen,no one.
    Dear people nothing is going to happen,why, because it will be like a domino effect and SXM won't have any politician left to run this country SXM.
    Just imagine they pick up maria then she starts sing and they will pick up sarah then she will say not me is TO and he will say roy did also and there go all of them.
    THATS WHY THE PROSECUTOR IS NOT GOING TO DO ANY THING!!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

  • Get them out!
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    Mr. Prosecutor do your job. This is blue colour crime, just smarter, but no difference to the ones who going out and robbing ppl. and getting locked up for it.
    To the ppl of St. Maarten....Once they raise our taxes we will go to the streets and protest. Let us not take this lying down.
    To Mr. Mardenborough write to Holland, St. Maarten will not do anything they are all one. Write your letter to Holland.

  • law for one law for all
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    The same way the Prosecutor does lock-up our black boys for stealing that is what he has to do now.

    What the Buncampers have done is high day robbery,no different than the boys on the street.Stealing is stealing no matter what,there's no other name for it.
    So let the Prosecutor do his job,all eyes are on you.Don't play "Pontius Pilatus"

    Else you can expect an uproar from the public Let all heads roll don't feel for nobody,who know better should do better.
    None COULD BE TRUSTED and this goes from " Top to Bottom"Lock them all up Kadaster,Vrom,Notary,Voges etc.etc.all who was envolved in this mess.

    Instead of being civil servants all of them are swindeling and changeing legal documents in their behalf and their best friends.Deal with this matter the correct way to avoid embarressment for our Island.THE CLOCK IS TICKING.

  • RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!
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    Before Christmas, they should release all prisoners who are locked up in Point Blanche for stealing or fraud. They are innocent in my eyes when compare to what Maria did to the land and it's people.

    I am ready to join any protest!

  • GOOD FOR SHE
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    WELL gues wha,t she dont have Taco Stein to hide behind of anymore so SHE s**t now, people dont forget , she and her husband had lunch together WITH TACO and the told him it is time to pick up Louis .

    They better do what theY have to do now pick her up and lock her up, just as they did Louis . What goes around comes around. Dont spit in the sky because it will fall back in your face.

    They should have cut the cancer out of the party, no but Sara like she keeping secret for Maria and Maria keeping for her

    I know one thing Laveist did not aproved a darn thing when it came the land, it was between Roy and the Richards

    Good for alll of them

    MERRY CHRISTMAS MARIA HOPE YOU SPEND IT IN JAIL

  • I am ready
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    Where ever this protest house to gather is,
    I will find it to voice my concern!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    We are redy to tear down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ENOGH IS ENOUGH

  • shame
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    OM is not going to do nothing against the Buncampers. They see Toontje as their right hand-man. Everyone that gets community service work to do, are referred to Toontje to get the community service work for them. Names and faces again. Good luck all of you because the Buncampers and OM are laughing at all of us. This subject will die a silent death, just wait and see. I put in for goverment land in the 80's and I was then told, not written (nor even officially answered in writing) that government do not have any land left. Since my request even in Point Blanche land was given out in long lease to multi nationals and friends and family of theirs and now I am seeing, someone who works at DOW (European Dutch woman) even got government land in long lease, but me a local born SXM Dutch civil servant is told nancy stories. So this means coming from abroad, get rich fast and if local go eat salt and remain a beggar in your own country. My request was officailly booked in at General Affairs, so I have the proof of my request. What a soap. That's all I can call it. Who to complain to. Even our higest bodies are involved and are still being rewarded for granting and making shady deals.

  • Cat got Tongue
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    Where are the civil servants when you need them? Willy Haize, Leopold James? Where are we to gather? At the prosecutor's office or at the administration building? Don't tell me you all in this too!? Hope not!!

  • hmmmmmmmmm
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    @ shame agree with you and I' feel your grieviances.
    Im the same here waitng for A piece of Gouverment Land..

    But if they let these people go scot FREE.
    Then their shouldn't be no prison for local St.Maartiners.

    Jail should only be for the dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That is the way i feel.

  • hmmmmmmmmm
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    MARIA BUNCAMPER,TOONTJE,THEO,SARAH,FRANKY,ROY,
    Are St.Maarten Vampires when we don't have no more blood they will stop.

    hehehhehhehehehhehe
    Stome appen

  • ABC
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    Well what I can advise Moses to do is get a laywer from Holland because these here might be affraid to touch this case we know in SXM the politics can get very nasty. Just listen to the interview wt Eddie Williams and Maria he didn't even ask her 1 question she did all to talking which didn't make any sense just a waste of time. We waiting to see how the Prosecutor's office will handle this case or do we need a black boy to commit a crime for speedy action and what suspending them while the investigation is ongoing. Thus this only apply to certain persons in our community too much curroption on this little Island.
    People wake up and and let's take to the streets I am ready.

    PS. this entire saga has received the most Blog's I have ever seen so the poeple are becoming more aware but the Prime Minister seems to have gone asleep or just simply playing dumb.

  • get the facts people
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    Did these people break the law? NO THEY DIDN'T and for the @ corrections person. The law in the NETHERLANDS prohibites the transferring of economic ownership without paying transfer tax. Here in the Antilles you DON'T PAY TRANSFER TAX.
    Secondly when you transfer economic ownership YOU DON'T PAY tax on the sale.
    So you see people these notaries know VERY WELL what they doing as this was the way it was done in the NETHERLANDS for years until they changed the law. If SXM wants to stop these LEGAL practices CHANGE THE LAW.. It would have been wise for the media to check out these facts above as more than 500 deeds have been done this way. It's funny do that only Maria's was selected out of the pack when many other politicians and their families have done the same.
    Nothing will happen to these persons involved as no laws were broken.
    Yes many haters hearts may have been broken amd many lies have been written by the newspapers (especially the Today who changed the story 3 times already) to have Maria and her family destroyed but it will not happen in this event.

  • The Observer
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    I found it totally amusing how Maria tried to pull a Bill Clinton on us; "I did not sell any long lease land for any amount of money," -"I did not have sexual relations with this woman Monica Lewinsky", then he was put in the dog house. Sounds familiar?

    She must take us all for a collective group of dumb a**es. Somebody has some 'splaining to do. LOL!!!

  • soualiboy
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    and this are the people driving the island , but i guess all of them are politicians , just to fill their fridge and dont care about the people of st-maarten , maybe its real time to ask for a new referemdum.......

  • hmmmmmmmmm
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    @ Get the Facts people

    Why would you sell a piece of land to A senior citizen that don't have gra** to scratch his axx for 3 million. It's dirty money being WASHED and they got to get what a the lower cla** have received. INVESTIGATION and HUMILATION

    Wrong is WRONG Sen.Louis constant Fleming work with his own money for the elctions and he ws pulled off his THRONE enough from you TOONTJE and MARIA B And SARAH....
    GOSH Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • to get the facts people
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    You are legally wrong and sound like an employee of a notary being aware of these illegal pratices.

    Indeed no transfer tax is due according to our fiscal regime (overdrachtslandsverordening), while such a transfer could be taxable in the Netherlands. Tax evasion is not what this is about.

    This is about illegally transferring public / domain land by means of a non existent title for the deed. To make it even more technical, although you will understand: In the Dutch situation the person who transfers the economical right can only do so if he/she is also authorized to ultimately legally transfer the property (or a real right to long lease).

    And that is not the case here since separate authorization is requested first from the Island Council (or its predessor). So without any authority to transfer the real right of long lease, one cannot sell 'economical ownership'.

    In fact it is a forbidden sublease and the notary involved must know that.

    So 500 other cases to come? If a lot of those cases concern getting an increase in value, one might start collecting it back and the TOT increase would not be necessary...

  • @ get the fact people
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    1. You conveniently forget that she misused her office (her husband did as well) in obtaining said parcel.
    2. You forget that subleasing the parcel (to SBS in this case) is NOT allowed
    3. You forget that it is a clear conflict of interest to sublease to a company that you approve the purchase orders for in you capacity as head of the maintenance department at VROM
    4. You forget that it is PROHIBITED to SPECULATE with the land value of long lease land. In this case, the "economic rights" per square meter price was sold by Buncampers to Eco-Green at approx. $ 650 per m2. Clearly speculative.

    So there are enough breaches of the law here. The OM should investigate.

  • Concern
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    According to the Bible - all that is done in secret will be brought to light.

    The people of St. Maarten were forced to accept what they did not vote for, now they have to swallow another big pill by accepting all this corroption that is in the government.

    I heard that the poor civil servants, who work hard for the public, do not even get one black cent as bonus - yet the politians who they are working for, are taking home millions of dollars from under the table and through fraud.

    Look who Maria's office appointed as mediator - shady person - no wonder our island will not go forward - only mafias asre leading this country.

  • Angry
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    This is strange and unfair. Last week the papers headlined (Today) Mr. Holiday appointment as Labor Mediator. When you loook at what they convicted this man for and what these people have apprently done we cannot but conclude that the color question is card is being played. When you look at the case with the 2 civil servants from the Tourist Office you ask when is the discrimintation going to stop. We need to stop hiding our heads in the sand and playing are is racism those not exits in our community. Let uas wake up and see the light and demand very forcefully that justice be dealt with equaly.

  • lets see what happen
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    Just google the name of Hero Brinkman in Holland from the PVV he have a email adress. I know that there are man and woman on the island who can sent him a letter and i know that next week ther are a lot questions ask in the second chamber in the Hague.
    one little warning here when the dutch come in you get him not that easy out but if you want a speciale gemeente van holland then this is your bet

  • well
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    all i have to say is OMG! who would think they would do such... st maarten really gone to the dogs! who rich will forever be rich and who poor will forever be poor....! OMG!

  • myomy
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    I have a hunch that the N.V belongs to the said Buncampies and they speculated and created all necessary "spin" in order to get money from the bank in order to "capitalize" the same business selling building material.....? It's their business!

    my"o"my

  • alex
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    One other thing here ppl. Maria was on national radio telling everyone she did not or know nothing about land being sold. Now you telling the ppl that "GACHI" falsify documents while being a notary???? indeed second chamber has to know what is going on here. I to is ready for any kind of protest. just the time and place i need and i will be there.

  • Wikileaks SXM
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    Time to go Wikileaks on all corrupt, unethical and unscrupulous public officials. Just when is enough?

  • case from Hell
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    This case is an exellent case for our new country, not because the situation or discussions are juicy and involves people you like or may not like. It is case, which has all the elements needed to challenge our new parliament's decisions making process and Constitution with reference to wrong doings within their own ranks and apparatus.
    The case will provide the general public with insight on "Economic Rights" a technical term not heard other in the halls of law firms and notary offices, the case will open eyes of land in long lease and it will open an ocean of questions to right of long disputed property cases.

    In the interrim, some lawyers will make a lot of money and the Ombudsmanwill be overwhelmed with such cases. Hopefully, yes, hopefull, we the public, if we read, and listen without forming an opinion before the facts are communicated, we the public will benefit and there will be a great opportunity to learn from this case from Hell- maybe King Bobo can sing a 2011 version.

  • woman of action
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    not just another politician !A THIEF!!..come and take your seat at the table of goverment..or hopefully pointblanch hilltop very soon!!all of you greedy politician good for all of you!!!

  • PEACE
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    PEACE PEACE PEACE
    Have in mind people everything that you declaire about some one else YOU SELF HAVE TO PAID FOR IT
    Please stop judge people no mater what happen. Leave that for GOD. Who are all of you that is writting all kind of things negative of each othe? Do you never make a mistake in your life? Please release a word of peace in our politicians life.

  • bla bla
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    Do you all know how bad i want to put a cock on that woman send her point blance please i will put it all in her mouth,chest she will love it oh guchh!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Re PEACE
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    How much more evidence do you need. She didn't have the sxm people in mind. Her own enrichment and her family is on her agenda. How many scandals are necessary? I hope this doesn't die down like the rest of the Buncamper scandals. Keep up the good work smn-news.

  • Antilliano
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    I will like to recommend that we call Hollywood and ask them if this story is not a good story for a thriller or drama. This will put us on the world scene and we will get a lot publicty. People will come here from all over the world and i can bet you that the minister of finance will retract the increase of the tot. So folks continue spreading the news and if there are more stories similar to this one please let us know. Today I read in the paper the situation where Don Johnson ask help to have the tennant remove from his house. This story again add more fuel to the inefficiency of our government. The man has to go to the media to expose the inefficiency of our institutions. If I am the minister in charge of that particular department I would dissolve the rent comm. and install a new R.C. consisting of real people. It is time to sent all of them packing and install a business cabinet for the first coming four years with the hope that we can get some done before we sink this country. Look at the road construction in the Arch road. They just put road blocks and leave these concrete obstacles on the road with out proper lights or signs to redirect the traffic. It is indeed a shame. Look at the issue with Dr Petit. Another story of what is going on our island. Folks it is time to clean house and I urge you to speak up.

  • more peculiarities
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    More peculiarities worth mentioning in this case.

    1. In the document 'akte van tijdelijke verhuring' previously posted on this site, mention is made that government leased to the Buncampers an area of 5577 square meters. Although they were clearly not allowed to sublease nor sell, they sold 'economic rights' of an amount of 4623 square meters (see other documents). Question: What happened to the remaining 954 square meters of land?

    2. The 'akte van tijdelijke verhuring' mentions that government allowed the lease for a period of one year, with the option of renewing every year if parties so desire. Nowhere is stated that the Buncampers will be entitled to yearly renewals up to the year 2068. In other words, the government could at any time decide not to renew said lease, once a 3 month notice in writing was given. Question: How can they then sell until the year 2068, the 'economic rights' of property that is clearly not theirs.

    3. Article 6, sub 6 of the 'akte van tijdelijke verhuring' mentions the possibility of moving the lease to another location should this be warranted in the interest of industrial zoning. Therefore, the location of this 5577 square meters area was not a permanent one. Question: Again, how could they sell the 'economic rights' of a specific area that was subject to change?

    4. Most important, government failed to ensure that the agreements of the lease were lived up to. Whose job is it in government to look after these matters? Was this done then government had all rights to pull back the lease because of breach of contract/agreement.
    The notary and the kadaster office were also negligent in not ensuring that proper procedures were followed and the necessary back ground check done, before executing further documents. Question: How is it possible that they all went wrong on this one? Hmmmmmm

  • @ more perculiarities
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    Is it maybe that they DIDN'T do anything wrong in the eyes of the LAW but only in the eyes of the HATERS and those that want the ministerial seat!

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